94+ 4 door integra questions

[mikewolf]

I have a few questions for the honda gurus. I'm in need of a car with a back seat. I really liked driving david's car in the hada shootout and thought a Honda would be a good option. I'm not sure why, but I've always liked the look of the 4 door integras. I don't really know anything about these cars, but what should I look for when I'm trying to find one. Were any of them available with an LSD? How much more do they weigh than the 2 door? Can they be made to handle as well as all the fast integras that are at the hada events? If I were to do an engine swap, what are good options that don't cost too much.
Sorry about all the newb questions.

[engsr]

All of the four doors (1994 to 1997) had the base model engine - the 140-142HP non-vtec. You won't find any 98+ since they weren't sold here, however, I have seen a few that were from the US (including the GS-R) but these are really rare. The wheelbase isn't that much longer (a few inches) and the weight difference is about 100lbs or so more. Only the Type-R came with the LSD.

My guess is they should handle roughly the same as the coupe, but I haven't seen one at a slalom or track, so I don't know for sure. I would think that you could get one to handle well enough with the right spring rates and Type-R rear sway bar.

As for an engine swap, I think the best bang for the buck would be a B20 ($500ish ?) with a Type-R transmission ($1000+). If you want a vtec motor, you're looking at least $1500 (B16 ie. SiR) up to $4000 (B18C5 ie. Type-R) for just the motor.

Hope that helps.

[mikewolf]

How much power does a b20 make?

[engsr]

The B20 makes 140HP but the torque is about 142 lb-ft, where as the stock Integra motor (the B18) is 124lb-ft. G and Kenny have the B20 Type-R transmission set-up and it's a proven set-up for an EG Civic. A buddy of mine has a B20 in his Integra and it definitely pulls a lot better than the stock B18.

[Solid Alibye]

The B20 makes 140HP but the torque is about 142 lb-ft, where as the stock Integra motor (the B18) is 124lb-ft. G and Kenny have the B20 Type-R transmission set-up and it's a proven set-up for an EG Civic. A buddy of mine has a B20 in his Integra and it definitely pulls a lot better than the stock B18.

I'm using a USDM B20Z (out of a '99-01 CR-V) that's rated at 146 crank hp.

BUT with a few bolt on's (intake/header/exhaust/B18B Integra intake manifold + ECU) I made 139 whp with 129 ft/lbs on a dynojet! (with P/S, and A/C!)

:D

There's LOTS of potential with any Integra platform!

[TAO]

The Only "problem" with older Honda's is Rust ... and the newest you will find is a 98. So, if you can find a clean, preferably NOT a Ontario Integra 4-door you have got a really good / fun 4 door platform to start with.

Moose

[MichaelN]

Word on the rust. My 17 year old Teg still runs. Parts are getting harder and harder to find. I have my car oil sprayed every year and have managed to keep rust to a minimum. B20z really brought the car to life.

[TomL]

As a counterpoint, my 95 teg was a rusted out pile, I don't think it had ever been oil sprayed, and it showed.

[Taylor]

I had a 94 Teg Sedan Auto. Car was fine. Held it's value and I didn't really loose much when I sold it a year or two later. But yeah, rear wheel well rust is the thing to look out for. Mine didn't have it when I bought it, but started to develop it when I sold it.. sure enough this is before I really knew I should take the rubber stripping out.